MOV009: “Fuck me gently with a chainsaw!”

Jeff shows his deep disinterest in Megamind, we all love Heather, and Predators just get a “meh” from us all.  Also, New about the Hulk, Wicked coming to the big screen?, the Rock in Fast 5, The Wachowskis Gay Iraq Romance gets a title, and Jeff has an orgasm over Optimus Prime.

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  • Via blog: From Sean B: I had to listen to your bit on 3D conversions. I’ve never seen any, but I’ve been kind of fascinated by them because the process is so insane– they take the 2D video and meticulously reverse-engineer it into a CG scene where a second, displaced camera (for the other eye) can be added. It’s a highly manual process involving farms of artists and several million dollars (for the ‘good’ conversions anyway). I’m amazed that they do it at all– http://3dcinecast.blogspot.com/2010/04/in-three-on-workflow-behind-3d.html

The Past: Heathers

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Director: Michael Lehmann

Staring: Winona Ryder, Christian Slater, Shannen Doherty, Lisanne Falk, & Kim Walker

Trivia:

  • Friends Veronica Sawyer and Betty Finn are named after other fictional friends Veronica and Betty from the comic strip “Archie”, and Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn.
  • The high school is named “Westerburg High”. Winona Ryder’s favorite band at the time was “The Replacements”, whose lead singer is named Paul Westerberg.
  • Westerburg High in reality is John Adams Middle School.
  • The police officers are named Milner and McCord, after ‘Kent McCord’ and Martin Milner, who played police officers in “Adam-12” (1968).
  • Originally, the book that suicidal students supposedly underline “meaningful” passages from was “The Catcher in the Rye”. The producers could not get clearance to use this book and it was changed to “Moby Dick” instead.
  • When Heather Duke gathers signatures for the Big Fun petition, one of the students stamps his name: Dennis Di Novi. This is a reference to the film’s producer, Denise Di Novi.
  • Filmed in 32 days
  • The radio call-in show “Hot Probs” featured in the movie is a version of the now nationally famous KROQ radio show “Loveline”, and the radio DJ in the movie is James ‘Poorman’ Trenton, the creator and original host of “Loveline”.
  • Veronica’s bedroom was built in the gym of the school they used in the film.
  • Heather Duke’s kitchen in the dream sequence was also the kitchen used for Heather Chandler’s house. They just switched the colors and lit it differently.
  • Lying on top of the glass table through which Heather Chandler fell were a copy of the Cliff’s Notes for “The Bell Jar” (which was written by Sylvia Plath, who committed suicide) and a magazine with a cover story “The Fall of the American Teenager.”
  • The role of Heather McNamara, the cheerleader, was originally offered to 17 year old actress Heather Graham. Heather’s parents decided against letting her do the role because of the dark subject matter.
  • The hotel imploded on TV in the movie is the Hotel King Cotton in Memphis, Tennessee which was destroyed 29 April 1984.
  • The role of Veronica was intended for Jennifer Connelly who turned it down.
  • Brad Pitt auditioned for the role of J.D., but was rejected because he was considered “too nice” for the part.
  • Ranked at #5 on Entertainment Weekly’s 50 Best High School Movies (2006)
  • At the beginning of the film Heather Chandler asks Heather Duke “did you have a brain tumor for breakfast?” The actress who played Heather Chandler, Kim Walker later died of a brain tumor.
  • The first day of filming took place on Ash Wednesday and the first scene filmed was the croquet game that took place after J.D. fires his gun in the cafeteria.
  • The film’s first scene was actually the last one to be shot. By that time, Lisanne Falk had cut her hair and had to wear a wig.
  • Justine Bateman was considered for the lead.
  • The name Heather is said 90 times throughout the film.
  • The closeups of Veronica’s legs was filmed with a body double.
  • Christian Slater has stated that his performance was heavily inspired by Jack Nicholson. He claims that he wrote a letter to Nicholson asking him to watch the film but did not receive an answer.
  • Mid-1990’s-era ska/punk band Edna’s Goldfish named their song “Veronica Sawyer” after the main character in Heathers. The song’s theme of alienation among suburban teenagers reflects the themes of the movie. Reel Big Fish covered the song on their 2009 album “Fame, Fortune and Fornication.”
  • Two stars of the movie died at an early age: Jeremy Applegate (Peter Dawson, whose character prays he will never commit suicide) committed suicide with a shotgun on March 23, 2000, and Kim Walker (Heather Chandler, who had the line “Did you have a brain tumor for breakfast?”) died of a brain tumor on March 6, 2001.
  • The original screenplay had a different ending in which Veronica kills J.D. by shooting him and then straps the bomb (a much larger and more complicated piece of equipment, described as being “a cylinder as large as a television set”) to herself, blowing up as J.D. does in the final ending. What is placed in the final ending as JD’s boiler-room speech about “imagine I blew up the school, imagine I blew up all the schools” is contained in a suicide note found in Veronica’s locker by Heather McNamara and Betty Finn. The movie ends with an eerie prom sequence set in Heaven, tying into JD’s assertion that the only place everyone will truly get along is in Heaven. The prom begins with students dancing within their social cliques, then switching partners in odd pairings like metalheads dancing with Heathers and one of the murdered jocks getting his prom picture taken with a tipped cow; the punch being served is the drain cleaner used in the first murder scene, and “Dumptruck” is singing onstage as the entertainment for the evening. This was intended to be shot but the studio thought it was too dark for the target teenage crowd and opted for a lighter ending.
  • J.D. tricks Veronica into killing the jocks by claiming to use “ich luge” bullets, which he claims only pierce the skin. “Ich lüge” is German for “I’m lying”.
  • Daniel Waters wanted his screenplay to go to director Stanley Kubrick,[6] not only out of profound admiration for Kubrick but also from a perception that “Kubrick was the only person that could get away with a three-hour film”. (The cafeteria scene opening Heathers was written as an homage to the barracks scene opening Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket.) After a number of failed attempts to get the script to Kubrick made Waters realize the apparent futility of the enterprise, he decided to give the script to Michael Lehmann, who then took it on with Denise Di Novi.

Talking Points:

  • Pretty Dark for a Teen movie… seen as an “anti” John Hughes film?
  • What is this movie about, in your opinion?

What We’ve Learned:

  • It’s so Very.
  • When dying after drinking draino, you must say what the last thing you ate was.
  • Gay people all drink Mineral Water.
  • Damage is a problem
  • When your ex-boyfriend is about to blow himself up, make sure you have a cigarette ready to be lit by the explosion.
  • Teenage suicide – don’t do it!

Trailer:

Recommendations:

Jeff: What? You don’t have this yet?
Ray: Its Very
Steve: See it! Own it!!

The Present: Predators

Director: Nimrod Antal

Staring: Adrian Brody, Topher Grace, Alice Braga, Walton Goggins, Oleg Taktarov, Laurence Fishburne & Danny Trejo

Trivia:

  • Robert Rodriguez was originally thought to be attached as director, however within days of this rumor coming out he confirmed he would only write and produce the film.
  • Neil Marshall, Michael J. Bassett, Bill Duke, Marcus Nispel, Peter Berg and Darren Lynn Bousman were considered to direct the film. In the end, Nimród Antal was hired because Robert Rodriguez enjoyed Antal’s earlier films Control (2003) and Vacancy (2007).
  • While often erroneously referred to as being a reboot or remake of the Predator series, the film is instead meant to be a sequel to Predator (1987) and Predator 2 (1990) while ignoring the events of the Alien vs Predator films.
  • The film’s basic plot was conceived in 1994, when Robert Rodriguez was working on Desperado (1995). He presented a draft of the script to 20th Century Fox, but they turned it down because the budget required was too large. 15 years later, the studio decided to follow through with his script; in the end, an updated version of his script.
  • Milo Ventimiglia, Freddy Rodríguez and Josh Brolin were considered for the role of Royce.
  • The film was shot in 53 days.
  • The original script contained cameo appearances by Dutch (Arnold Schwarzenegger) and Michael Harrigan (Danny Glover), the protagonists of the previous Predator films. However, these appearances were ultimately cut out.
  • Danny Trejo’s character is named Cuchillo. “Cuchillo” is Spanish for “knife”. Many of Trejo’s characters in Robert Rodriguez movies have been named after knives or sharp instruments: Machete in Spy Kids (2001), Spy Kids 2: Island of Lost Dreams (2002), and Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over (2003); Razor Charlie and Razor Eddie in From Dusk Till Dawn (1996), From Dusk Till Dawn 2: Texas Blood Money (1999) (V), and From Dusk Till Dawn 3: The Hangman’s Daughter (1999) (V), Navajas (Spanish for “blades”) in Desperado (1995), and he also plays another character called Machete in Machete (2010), a feature length version based on a fake trailer featured in the Robert Rodriguez/Quentin Tarantino collaboration Grindhouse (2007).
  • Nimród Antal specifically chose Adrien Brody for the main protagonist: “It was a challenge in finding a balance. When we cast Adrien, there were a lot of people going, What? But at the same time, if we cast a Vin Diesel in that role or anyone who is Arnold-esque, we would have been attacked for doing that. So we decided early on to go in a very different direction as far as the casting process, but it turned out fantastic.” He also felt the soldiers should be portrayed as wiry tough guys, not burly men like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
  • Alice Braga continues the “Predator” tradition of casting a Latin actress in the film, following Elpidia Carrillo in Predator (1987), and Maria Conchita Alonso in Predator 2 (1990).
  • Robert Rodriguez intends this film to be part of the “Predators” series and NOT the “Alien Vs Predator” series.
  • According to Robert Rodriguez, the title of “Predators” serves as a double-entendre, describing the alien hunters as well as the ensemble human characters they target: “They could very well kill each other off even if there were no Predators!”
  • The average height of the actors who play the Predator creatures in this film are around 6’6-7″, while the actors in the previous films, Kevin Peter Hall Ian Whyte, were 7’2½” and 7’1″ tall, respectively.
  • When asked where he drew his inspiration for how to make a Predator film, Robert Rodriguez responded he was inspired what to do from the original Predator (1987), and what not to do by Predator 2 (1990), AVP: Alien vs. Predator (2004), and AVPR: Aliens vs Predator – Requiem (2007). Furthermore he added he drew no inspiration whatsoever from the Predator comics.
  • The classic Predator from the original Predator (1987) will be seen for the first time in over 20 years.
  • Alan Silvestri, who composed the score for the original film Predator (1987), was asked to write this score to this film. He could not due to scheduling conflicts with The A-Team (2010). John Debney, who Robert Rodriguez had worked with previously on Sin City (2005) and The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl 3-D (2005) received the assignment. Debney was quoted as saying that his score will be influenced by Silvestri’s original score for the 1987 film.

Talking Points:

  • Did anyone else feel the soundtrack was odd? Seemed overly upbeat at times during tense scenes
  • What did you think of Adrian Brody as the lead?
  • Are the Predator movies even scary any more since we know what it looks like and what it’s capable of?

What We’ve Learned:

  • Don’t be a predator, otherwise you might end up on a game preserve planet being hunted!
  • Sniper rifles are apparently more efficient than Gatling guns when fighting Predators. Make sure you have one lying around.
  • If you wake up finding yourself falling from the sky in a parachute, assume you’re on an alien planet and be ready to fight for your life!
  • Conserve Ammo!

Trailer:

Recommendations:

Jeff: Buying potential. Not as actiony as I was hoping it would be but personally think good to see in the theaters.
Ray: Did you like the first one? Would you like to see the first movie all over again with more predators? Then go see it.
Steve: Good rental. Unnecessary to see in the theater.

The Future: Megamind

Starring: Brad Pitt, Jonah Hill, Will Ferrell, & Tina Fey

Trivia:

  • The film was originally titled “Master Mind.” However, since the name had already been trademarked by the makers of the 1970s board game and TV show, the title was changed.
  • The film was going to be titled “Oobermind”, which was a misspelling of the term “über-mind.” The word “über” refers to something that is large or great; in this case, the title character’s over-swollen skull/brain. But this was rejected because it didn’t sound right.
  • Ben Stiller was originally cast as MegaMind, and later Robert Downey, Jr., but Will Ferrell was given the role, due to “scheduling conflicts” for Downey.

Talking Points:

  • Will a cartoon with adult themes (see summary) make it in the same season of Toy Story?

Summary:
After super-villain Megamind (Ferrell) kills his good-guy nemesis, Metro Man (Pitt), he becomes bored since there is no one left to fight. He creates a new foe, Titan (Hill), who, instead of using his powers for good, sets out to destroy the world, positioning Megamind to save the day for the first time in his life.

Trailer:

Excitement:

Jeff: *blink, blink, blink blink* Pass
Ray: Farrell normally drives me up a wall, but i found the trailer funny.. lets hope theres more than just the trailer.
Steve: Looks cute! I’m looking forward to an adult cartoon! Only drawback for me is Ferrell.

Coming Attractions:

The Past: Mighty Morphing Power Rangers: The Movie
The Present: The Sorcerer’s Apprentice
The Future: Alpha & Omega

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MOV008: “Some Monks Can Meditate For Four Days”

3D, 3D, 3D. Filmed in vs Upconversion, the next Spider-Man, Mad Max returns, The Deer Hunter, The Last Airbender, and The Green Hornet.

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Hey this is wrong. I wanted to say that I’ve seen, or any of that means, and even going about it on monday, including problems and suggesting maybe. However, the one that I think is probably the worst of actually paid for is when I wanted to see. I know that you did last summer. I wanna hoping I can see each other. Michelle Gellar Bureau. But, and I need a cult rescheduling it may be really bye bye. It turned out to be one of the worst in Thursday hit it. Bye.

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  • Leggomycraiggo – I didn’t pay to see it in the theater, but a rental I heartly regret: Big Fish. Well, that or City of Lost Children
  • Lukifurcub – The Masters of the Universe with Courtney Cox no less.
  • A movie title Grayskull is currently in developement according to IMDB

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  • Kevin (my brother) – I actually paid to see “Giglli” (Gigli) or whatever that Ben Affleck/Jennifer Lopez bomb was. Matinee, mind you. I went in thinking, “It can’t be as bad as they’re saying,” and walked out (a minute or two before the end, thinking, “Yep, it was that bad.
  • Gryphon – I’m at work and can’t call but I would have to say Legion. Although it was good to see that kid from American gothic all grown up… Cute!
  • Don – Event Horizon

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  • Dogboi – The worst movie I ever paid to see was The Wedding Planner. What was I thinking? Matthew McConaughey *AND* Jennifer Lopez. How could it NOT be bad.

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Solaris (2002) (Why they felt the need to put this political story into movie form I’ll NEVER understand and why oh WHY did we need to see Clooney’s naked behind?)

The Thing (1982) (I watched this in the theater on an Army base and probably 1/2 of the mostly male audience left within 30 minutes about the same time I did. This movie had no redeeming value, at all. Well, at least not for the first 30 minutes, but it showed no signs of being anything more than a really bad gore fest.)

I know there are others that were awful, but those are the ones that I REALLY remember as regretting going to.

Marcia

The Past: The Deer Hunter

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Director: Michael Cimino

Staring: Robert De Niro, John Cazale, John Savage, Christopher Walken, Meryl Streep

Trivia:

  • 1979 Oscar Award winner for Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Christopher Walken, Best Director, Best Film Editing, Best Picture, and Best Sound
  • The slapping in the Russian roulette sequences was 100% authentic. The actors grew very agitated by the constant slapping, which, naturally, added to the realism of the scenes.
  • Robert De Niro recently explained that the scene where Michael visits Steve in the hospital for the first time was the most emotional scene that he was ever involved with. He broke down in tears while discussing the scene in AFI Life Achievement Award: A Tribute to Robert De Niro (2003) (TV).
  • The wedding sequences were filmed in the summer, but were set in the fall. To accomplish a look of fall, leaves were removed from trees and painted orange. They were then reattached to the trees.
  • John Wayne’s final public appearance was to present the Best Picture Oscar to The Deer Hunter (1978) at The 51st Annual Academy Awards (1979) (TV). It was not a film Wayne was fond of, since it presented a very different view of the Vietnam War than his own movie, The Green Berets (1968), had a decade earlier.
  • First feature film depicting the U.S. involvement in Vietnam to be filmed on location in Thailand.
  • Features the worlds first (and Only) Christian Football Waltz “Drop Kick Me Jesus (Through the Goalposts of Life)” from 1976 which is odd, because the movie had to take place prior to 1976

Talking Points:

  • Holy long-ass movie!
  • Tons of extras!
  • Do y’all think this movie is how it really was for people who were going to Vietnam?

What We’ve Learned:

  • These wedding sequences have no significance what-so-ever. It is meant to take up film space and waste the watcher’s time.
  • Robert DeNiro was kinda hot when he was younger.
  • Regardless of the movie, Christopher Walken is always creepy.

Trailer:

Drop Kick Me Jesus:

Recommendations:

Jeff: /yawn
Ray: I think this was a really powerful movie, i would not discount the first act as being unnecessary at all. Powerful performances by a very young De Niro and Walken.
Steve: Wow…it took me two layovers and a flight from Houston to Tampa to watch this movie! I might have liked it if it was shorter and more to the point. Had promise, but I just lost interest.

The Present: The Last Airbender

Director: M. Night Shyamalan (Schmalamadingdong)

Staring: Noah Ringer, Nicole Peltz, Jackson Rathbone, Dev Patel, Aasif Mandvi

Trivia:

  • The film was originally titled “”Avatar: The Last Airbender” (2005)”, after the TV show it was based on. However, James Cameron and 20th Century Fox had already registered the film title Avatar (2009), so the word was dropped from the title to avoid confusion.
  • Jesse McCartney was originally cast to play Zuko, but was replaced with Dev Patel due to scheduling conflicts.
  • This is the first adaptation that M. Night Shyamalan directed.
  • The release of this movie prompted a group of fans to remodel a 1985 Chevy Astro van into an Appa look-a-like, known as The Appamobile.
  • Voice actor Dee Bradley Baker voiced Appa and Momo in the original animated show “Avatar: The Last Airbender” (2005) and reprises those roles uncredited for the live-action film adaptation.
  • This is the first PG-rated film (in the USA) M. Night Shyamalan has directed since Wide Awake (1998).
  • According to M. Night Shyamalan, the “mispronunciation” of the names of some of the characters (Aang, Sokka, Avatar, etc) is due to the fact that he wished to ‘honor the source material’ and use the Asian pronunciation.
  • Another “giant change” M. Night Shyamalan made from the animated series to the big screen was to limit the Fire Bender’s source of fire. Only the highest of the Fire Benders can conjure flames from their chi.
  • A scene involving the Kyoshi Warriors and the introduction of Suki (Sokka’s other love interest) was filmed but removed from the final cut, due to the director’s belief that it was a separate story and would only distract from the movie’s main storyline.
  • Critics Vs Airbender – The 6 Most Savage Quotes (Thanks Chris from the Dammit Lets Eat Podcast)

Talking Points:

  • Races
  • Bending
  • Length
  • Script
  • Sequel? Will Book Two: Earth be made?
  • The scenes were too quick – only true fans will even care about it (or get it, for that matter)

What We’ve Learned:

  • The cartoons on Nickelodeon are SO much better!
  • It looks great!
  • 3-D does not save a movie.
  • Don’t buy into the hype.
  • Falcor > Appa

Trailer:

Recommendations:

Jeff: Rent the DVD will be fine. Might be worth seeing in the Theaters but do NOT watch in 3D, it’s not worth the extra charge.
Ray: Bad Acting! Horrible Script! Unintentionally hillarious! I wanted to walk out. Just watch my reaction LOL
Steve: I’m a fan of this series, so I really, really wanted to like it. M. Night – really????

The Future: The Green Hornet

Starring: Cameron Diaz, Seth Rogan, Jay Chou, Christopher Walz, Edward Furlong, Edward James Olmos, Tom Wilkinson, Analeigh Tipton (Homo Alert – yep…Analeigh from America’s Next Top Model Cycle 11!!!)

Trivia:

  • Seth Rogen shed 30 pounds to play the titular role.
  • In late 2008, Stephen Chow was set to direct and co-star as Kato. However, creative differences prevented him from doing so although, for a while, it seemed he was still set to play Kato when Michel Gondry became attached.
  • ‘The Green Hornet’ was originally a radio show, first broadcast in 1936 and running to 1952. Although there were two serials in the 1940s (13 and 15 chapters, respectively), the last six chapters of the first one re-edited into a 100-minute feature and several episodes of the 1966 TV series were edited together into a pair of 90-minute films, this is the first original feature-length Hollywood treatment of the costumed hero.
  • The film’s release date was originally the day that an adaptation of another emerald hero was to be released, Green Lantern (2011).
  • When the rights to the Green Hornet property were purchased by Mirimax, Kevin Smith was attached to write and direct this film. However, Smith pulled out of directing due to an insecurity of directing something with such a larger budget than he was used to. He stayed on as writer and wrote two drafts, but with no further progress with the script, the rights were let go and purchased by Columbia Pictures. Then, coincidentally, his Zack and Miri Make a Porno (2008) star, Seth Rogen, became attached to star and write the screenplay.
  • On July 23, 2009, Rogen, along with everyone else officially attached to the project at that point, appeared at the San Diego Comic-Con International and unveiled the Black Beauty, the Green Hornet’s car, as it will appear in the film. According to The New York Times, the production modified 29 cars to portray the Green Hornet’s luxurious supercar. The 29 cars were a mix of 1964, 1965 and 1966 Chrysler Imperials modified to resemble (but not exactly duplicate) the two 1966 Imperials used to portray the Black Beauty in the 1966 television series. The producers turned down product placement deals with both BMW and General Motors in favor of using the classic Chrysler.
  • The first trailer was released online on June 24, 2010 and was attached to screenings of Grown Ups, another film distributed by Columbia Pictures.
  • The film was originally set for a release for June 25, 2010 but the studio gave that release date to the comedy film Grown Ups. Sony then pushed the film for a December 22, 2010. The film is now slated to release on January 14th, 2011 due to the film’s 3-D conversion.

Talking Points:

  • Seth Rogan as a superhero? Can we really take him seriously?
  • Will this be an epic fail due to 3-D conversion?
  • What is it about Cameron Diaz and Green Hued Superhero’s (AICN)

Summary:
Newspaper publisher Britt Reid moonlights as a masked crimefighter called The Green Hornet accompanied by his similarly masked valet, martial arts expert Kato. Despite his heroic intentions, he is considered so disreputable among legitimate law enforcement that he is able to talk casually with known criminals and even do business with them.

Trailer:

Excitement:

Jeff: /giggle
Ray: Cautiously optimistic based on the International Trailer.. the Domestic Trailer was bad.
Steve: Based on the trailer…not even REMOTELY interested. I’d only see it to see how Analeigh does in it.

Coming Attractions: Steve

The Past: Heathers
The Present: Predators
The Future: Megamind

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